I use 4f Goex true black powder in the pan.

Next time I see 777 for a bargain I'll buy a pound of 3f to try. Gander Mountain sometimes has sales on ML supplies. Does the 3f make much difference in lock time versus 2F in 777? It would be nice to get a little faster ignition, the slight delay plays hell with me nerves!

Hey Markwhiz, I never looked for the bases, how close to the target do you usually find them? Are they melted at all? Would be interesting to look at. Thanks!