Hi Ron - Thanks for your advice -

You are probably right about the rye growing fast. If things were perfect - it would grow to 6-8" this fall, then go dormant in October. If like past years - the deer will eat it so it looks like green paint on the ground by the time the snows really come in Dec.

In April, we would maybe start to see some new growth again. Historically for us - for May in CNY, the rye would be about 8" tall around the 1st week in May - this is when I would like to plow.

I was worried that winter wheat or Barely would not winter over - and I knew rye would. I wasn't sure that if the crop died off in winter - if Nitrogen would leach out. I wish I'd thought to pick up a few pounds of another seed type to try - just for fun.

If the Rye gets too tall, I guess we'll have to mow it before plowing.

NORTH JEFF - Thanks for your input - I've followed your posts as long as you/I have been posting - with great interest. It really sounds like your land has come a long ways since we first conversed - I'm really glad for you. Your program and mine are similar - but you started with less deer/sq. mile. It sounds like you are making up ground in a big way.

Thanks again

FH