Having been a guide in Wisconsin for many years, I have seen a lot of treestands! In Wisconsin we can't leave stands on the public lands over night and that just doesn't jive with my hunting techniques anyway, so all hunters were required to bring their own stands. The best climbers by far in my opinion were the lone wolf stands. The tree lounges were my least favorite, because the guys could not get them through the swamps or thick woods quietly and they made to much noise when hunters shifted there weight. I also noticed the hunters stuck way to far out from the tree and often complained of being spotted by the deer. I would look at the lonewolf climbers before investing hard earned cash. Why don't you add a post asking about lone wolf climbers and see the response you get from that also and compare. Good luck with whatever you choose.