well after 4 days of hikeing and hunting, i finally got my elk, but with a price , i tore my acheillies tendon, so i guess its gonna be easy hunting for me for a while. but i got him, a nice 5 by 5, sneaked in on him while he was tearing up a tree and bugleing. i got with in 17 yards of him, about 40 or so yards above me on a another bench was the rest of the herd, i think he was trying to challenge the herd bull. i waited for close to 15 minutes , to see if the herd bull was gonna come down , but he wouldn't , so i took the 5 by 5, which , in my book is still a very nice bull. as soon as i get the pics developed i'll post them on here if your curious