I have av old tree lounge. It's pretty comfy, but noisy to carry and climb with. So I bought a few chain on stands the other day at dick's; nice and cheap too!!!-less that 30 beans a piece if you bought more than one. I didn't hang both yet because I'm still cutting trails through the briars(I know it's late but I just got access to the place). But it seems to me hanging the stand is easy compared to srewin in them steps. I thought about using my cordless drill, and I think I will now. Good advice guys!