I ran into a guy a few years back during Elk season. It' was an either sex area, well he came walking down an old growed over road we normally walk up. well as we were gearing up we greeted each other and asked how he did. Well he said not too good, all he'd seen were a couple of pheasant and six deer. Well we're pretty high up in the woods(dark evergreen timber) and that pheasant comment got me to thinkin(Iv'e never seen a pheasant in the timber) so I asked him about the deer. He exclaimed"Ya big deer , the biggest I ever saw!" My Dad didn't catch on but I did, so I asked"Were these big Yellow deer?". " Ya...the biggest yellow deer I ever saw, they were HUGE!" Well we went up to find the elk trail and bunch of pretty startled grouse. []