I was out scouting again last night. I saw a couple of great bucks. Both out of velvet one was a nice young 8 point 120 class and he was with a 150-160 class I would guesstimate. I could not tell if he was a 10 or a 12 but he was a real bruiser. Awesome mass and width. He stayed in the thick stuff while 10 does and fawns were out in the field. OH MAN I cant wait!