Hey Kirkl. How far are you from the Oak Creek area? I think that if it is close to there, that may give a false reading of the true nature of the herd, cuz a lot of those Elk migrate from where those big boys were taken. It's kind of a safe haven and they know it, they either run into Mt. Rainier N.P. or the slide off the other side and head for O.C.?

I'm just pondering ideas? I guess on the antler restrictions I think there maybe room for both and they may have a benefit each way but I think our State is really bad at managing the wildlife, for their pockets and the bottmline and not for the Wildlife.