just somethings to think about! Keith great posts, UAL excellant, you are the one this class was made for. Not for the people who complain when they miss some 11 rings. Fast Fletch, what do we do for the local clubs when there targets are getting destoryed by the hunter class arrows hitting in a 3 diameter circle? Some changes need to be made, we are getting off track here lately! A few weeks ago, I made a post about thinking before we speak. Make some constructive suggestions, I have an idea= 260 speed limit, 100 or 125 grain screw in points, mount your quiver to your bow and have six mismatched arrows from Walmart in your quiver. Those are the guys that we need to get to come out and shoot at the local clubs and maybe us more experienced shooters can give them some help in there shooting! I also agree that there are a lot of guys and gals that enjoy shooting at those distances, but when 100 or more people are shooting par or above do they really belong in that class?