Thanks Shadowace. They're not the biggest bucks posted on this board, but hopefully they'll help our cause. I saw one brute last year that was definite magazine cover material, but never saw him again. He was an older buck, judging from the darkness of his coat and the gray around his muzzle, probably 4-5 years old. He was thirty yards out but through too much brush to even attempt a shot. In the back of mind I'm hoping he made it through and I get a chance at him, but in the meantime I'm banking on those that I do see.