I recently got the QAD due to all of the rave reviews I've read. I got pretty heavy contact on my vanes with the rest. I tried moving the rest and nock point around, but could not get around the contact problem. Either I got contact from the long extended arms on the 2 hen fletches when shooting with the cock vane up, or very heavy contact on the cock vane when I tried it cock vane down. I do like the way the rest works, and probably will make a launcher for it with shorter arms. It will not have the 100% containment of the original, but still should work well for a hunting or 3D rest. I've never tried the VBG rest.