Hi Joe, Thanks for the reply. I value anyone's info & help. I'm pretty new to this. I have a Bear TRX & like it, but if I can get something easier on my shoulder, I'd but it. I also saw on Darton's site the Cyclone 3D. More brace height. Do you think this would be any easier on me? Thanks again for any help. I apprecaite it. And yes, it is hell growing old with injuries. All the years racing motorcycles hasn't helped either. <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Phil.