I went down to a buddies last yeare to a little hog catchin and would't you know he was trying to show me how to do it and the pig got him in the upper leg and groin area and wrestled him around a bit.took almost 100 stitches to sew him up,so i never got to try it.i catch alot of coyotes by hand after the dogs get them bayed up against a creek bank or something,its quite an adrenaline rush.