I went through qutie a bit of trouble today to order a .308... very surprised that noone carries them. My experience with the 308 is mainly military.... I am a USMC & Army veteran since '73; the ballistics are decent, it is not quite as noisy as the great 30'06 and we found it to have incredible accuracy potential. If memory serves me right, our snipers were using a Rem 700 stiff barrel and 3x9 redfields.... 900-1100 meter shots. So many, many good bullets with flight characteristics that allow it to go downrange with a little less powder. I understand why we went to the M16 but I immediately missed the M14. Ah, the M16. Fastest shooting squirrel rifle to ever be issued to a standing army.