Please note that the small area in NY, adjacent to Lake Ontario is my home stomping grounds. When I talk about my BULLWINKLE, he beds deep in a swamp in my hood. davidmil, now that my secret is out I suspect I'll be seeing you and your new undies low crawling in my swamp. You are welcome because this bugger is a tricky buck that varies his patterns almost daily. If I spot you 1st. expect three rapid coyote howls, I'll be behind you like Rambo in the mud wall.