I WAS GOING TO GET A SATELLITE DISH MAINLY FOR THE ODC I WAS TOLD I WOULD NEED THE 60 " INSTEAD OF THE 30" DISH AND THE OUTDOOR CHANNEL WAS ONLY WITH THE MOST EXPENSIVE PACKAGE. I THINK IT WAS $89 A MONTH. I WILL JUST DO MY OWN OUTDOOR STUFF RATHER THAN GO TO THAT EXPENSE.