Just an update thanks for all the opinons and comments on the different pistols out there, well I'm in the process of making my purchase, I'm getting two a Berreta 9000s .40 and a Taurus PT92 9mm, the pair for $500.00, both are used but in great shape, the berreta has about 100 rds through it, the Taurus about 600. I think I'm getting a great deal.