I just ditched my loop to try it off the string. I use a tied in nock only. I do not use an eliminator button and seem to be more accurate than when I was using my loop. I'm not sure why that is but that is the case with my particular bow. I use a scott release, maybe that is the difference? I don't know if I'm getting that much nock pinch to make a difference or not, however, my groups are smaller now for some reason.