I started a thread here on the turbo nocks. I saw them in a catalog and wanted to know more. I am glad Nick took the time to explain his product. It gave me a better idea what it was about. I don't think he was pushing his product. He was explaining it. I got a lot of responses about how it was junk. But the people didn't bother to tell me that they failed to take the steps necessary for success. I appreciate his input, and for that i am thankful.