my local shop has a $40 fixed stand. I took a look at it. It looks like a $40 stand!! They also have nice API and Summit stands. It is crazy to think about paying top dollar for a bow, camo, scents, and taking time off of work to save a couple of 20's on a stand that is so uncomfortable I can't stand sitting in it!! 2-300 bucks for some of those climbers is pretty pricey though!