I like 445's idea/theory. I think it's quite sound. I've been thinking something like that all along, I just couldn't put it into words.

Let me add this: Personally, I think ALOT of the opponents of the AR's are lazy. They don't want to have to do their homework....they want to wake up at camp on Monday morning, go sit on "their" log(the same one they've sat on since 1972) and shoot the first buck that walks by. HEAVEN forbid they actually HUNT.

I reallize this isn't true in all cases, but in alot of camps this is what they've always done....tradition....