Your correct ,but look at Texas,Cant hunt without paying and Ill. WOW last time I was there I was almost beat up when I stopped for gas.Why cause I was a NR hunter,or just go to Bowsite.net and the ill. site and see how they feel about the situation.I quess one thing that bothers me is Pa. does not have any numbers to show.they wont give any figures on what they want to reduce the herd to. The statewide program should be broken down into smaller areas.Plus the Bait and swithch tatctics there using makes them suspect in my mind. The way the state has gotten the support from hunters is very sneaky. At every meeting they say this program is to bring the state deer herd into check.We must lowerer the population.The faces on the crowd show a disgruntle look.Then they say but a side effect will be big bucks.Then you can just see the room light up with crazed imaginations of trophy bucks.So they jump on the hooray Mr. Alt bandwagon. Result they just were suckered with the old bait and switch game.5 years from now when the same hunter is seeing 5 deer a week instead of 5 a day,I wonder how happy they will be.And a chance of taking one buck every five years hits home.Plus once the doe are killed off,by by to the multiple doe permits.