I got some from the girlfriends mom. Kinda said thanx biting my tongue. I once had a tom coming in and had the expander for the hen and standard stake for the jake. Jake was up in secs. Hen cost me the tom he spotted me before the decoy could be setup I was pissed. If you have the time to set em' up they work great but if you need to setup up quick you might as well not setup at all.