thanx alot.....my uncle duno JACK about hunting guns or reloading....hes a junky for a bargin to sell it for its worht to make money off someone.....i guess i wont get into it........i dont do much shooting of shotguns.....just thought i could get some really neat loads or something....maybe save a few bucks...but i guess not......i reloaded shot shells a few times with my buddy and his dad....his dad has a big ole progressive loader rigged on hyrdolics i think it is....which is rigged to a foot pedal....put the new hull in...take the finshed shell off...put the wad where it goes....push the pedal and watch your fingers when the wad pusher downer goes down....we were just loading loads like you said....i never seen him set up the charge bars or anything....it was always ready when we started.....we could blow threw a few hundred rounds in an hour......they do alot of shooting clays and stuff.....so thats why they reload....thanx alot....