no they werent tryin to get some extra $$ out of you...they were tellin the truth..i shoot my pse bow at 48 lbs., 28 draw, alluminum tru-flite 30" arrows....it penetrated straight throught 2 bales a couple times.. theres no way i could of gone with one...the only way u could is if u took the end of the bale and shot at it..it seems to be a lot tighter and the arrow barely goes through. but i suggest putting ur money into a good target at ur nearest archery dealer.