thanx livbucks......if i cant find it ill head there...not sure how far it is but if its close to you it cant be THAT far for me....i have many gun shops around....and a baitshop that sells it and was out last time i checked and claimed to have more on the way....but he said he had tons a week before i was just checking.....if not i still might find it somewhere......thanx alot....that stuff is pretty hard to find...noone wants to carry it because of insurance and all that junk ive been told...but why can walmart carry 777 and pyrodex?