I looked at the Trench Gun. . . . . . For about 30 seconds. It is a P.O.S. no offense. The metal work looks like ti was done in someone's dark basement on a MOnday night. I would not trust one of these guns with my life, and would not take the chance with losing game either. Spend the extra few bucks and buy the Ithaca, you will be much happier in the end. The saying is true, you only get what you pay for. I really wanted to like that trench gun but the quality of the work was horrible. The best AK's are/were produced in Austria, Bulgaria, USSR, and East Germany, far better quality than the Chinese. Go to any AK site and see how they are rated. My opinion and that is all it is.