Well i agree lou-lou but they are not that good on big deer as far as penetration. i hunted with the A/C/C 3-49 and shot a 300 lb whitetail last season and was not happy with the penetration so this year i am gonna be shooting the Easton ST Axis 340 , i really like the way these arrows fly and hit , i have had NO problems with the Axis arrows . Oh by the way that deer dressed out at 240 lbs scored 147 08/ P&Y 12 point public land deer