Just recieved my Summit Goliath X4 a few days ago,,been up and down the tree in my backyard about a dozen times already (this past few days) doing extended sits ,,shooting the bow and i gotta tell ya that is the most comfortable thee most solid stand climber i've ever owned,, it may be just a wee bit on the heavy as far as packing but i don't usually have that far to go to locate a good area and besides i'd sacrifice a little extra wieght for a good roomy and comfortable climber.