think it's funny how the people talk about they wouldn't be proud of a deer they killed over bait probably never have hunted over it because it's illegal to do so in their state
Mike, I have hunted over bait and I have killed several deer hunting over bait. There is no challenge IMO, it changes a deer's natural feeding pattern. I also think you miss out on some unbelieveable hunting when you only concentrate on hunting over bait.
In cases like you mentioned where you rarely ever hunted over the bait, I have no problems with that, baiting to hold deer on you property is fine by me. But IMO, there is no challenge associated with hanging a stand over a bait pile.