I like the idea of expanding the hunter defense ranges. This would raise money for the IBO but not require the membership fees to shoot. If the intent is to attract new shooters then this would be an ideal way to do it and not hurt existing classes. Change the name from bowhunter defense range as it could be confusing to new shooters. Why not make it to where some new shooters could pair up with some experienced shooters like Keith and others that shoot the hunter class or MBR. This would give experienced shooters a chance to pass along some helpful tips and possibly pave the way for new members to join. I would jump at the chance to pair off with a shooter like Keith or an MBO shooter and go through the range with them. It would be like a pro/am type of shoot. At the end of the course give the shooters a certificate and some chances at door prizes and they will go home and talk about the "pro" they shot with and perhaps join and talk their shooting buddies into joining also. At the same time wouldn't it give the MBR and MBO shooters an ego boost to shoot with an amateur and help the IBO grow a little? I realize that some of the top shooters would not have the time to do this but some would and who knows you could make someones day. I know when my wife and I got to shoot with Javan Parsons at Wetumpka, we were impressed with his helpful tips for me and my wife to shoot better. He had a cool shirt on with his archery shop sponsor on it and to us it was like shooting with a "pro" and we had a blast. We also shot with a couple of senior pros at Rome and they were also great to shoot with. To many of the new shooters that would come out, this would be like meeting a Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan of archery. I can't name the top shooters that I have met just this year that have taken the time out to talk to me and my wife and just hang out with us. That is what grows our sport and creates something even better; friendships. I realize that this is not a solution to the HC problems that some of you have mentioned but it will help get new shooters to our shoots. I will be back next year and my goal is to shoot better than the 50th and 40th place I finished in the last two segments of the southern triple crown this year(LOL). Thanks to all of you that take the time out to help us new shooters. My wife got her first bow for Christmas of 2003 and she could not have won the IBO state championships here in Alabama without the helpful advice of the great people in the IBO shoots we went to. Not one person had any negative things to say to her, only ecnouragment and just good friendly advice. To a woman as nervous and scared as she was going to Wetumpka for her first tournament that meant a lot! You never know the impact you can have on a persons life until you try. To you, you are just another shooter with a few sponsors on your shirt and a nice bow. To others though, you look like a pro that has been doing this forever. All of you are what make the IBO what it is. See all of you at Snowshoe in a couple of weeks.