O.K, how many of you guys have done, or know someone who shoots elk with a .243, or a 25-06? Is this too small? While I won't condone the use of a .243 on elk, people do it every year, and they bring home meat. Yes, some do lose their animals, but so do guys shooting deer with a 30-06! Think about how much muscle and bone really is in a deer sized critter. Now tell me that a 60 grain partition flying close to 3000 fps won't penetrate and destroy what ever gets in it's way. I will compare a .223 to a broadhead. The .223 will outperform that broadhead everyday of the week! Bold statement? Yes! Ignorant staement? Maybe, but think about this. Can you shoot your bow, confidantly enough to put that arrow in a deers heart (Standing still and broadside mind you) at a 125 yards? No. I don't care how good anarcher says he is, he cannot outshoot a marksman at longer ranges with a rifle he or she knows like their own child. At the same time, that same 60 grain partition bullet will deliver enough hydro-static shock to turn that deers heart into jelly. You may say the .223 is too small. Then don't shoot one. Leave that to those few skilled indivuals who can do the appointed job. I know I can't swim, so I stay out of the pool. If you cannot shoot a gun with enough confidence, than maybe you shouldn't be out in the woods.