You simply can't win the debate unless you misrepresent the postion of others. We don't intentionally kill BB, we simply decided that it was necessary to harvest any legal deer in order to control the herd because we were not getting the opportunity to harvest mature doe. What you can't seem to comprehend is that the average hunter doesn't want to go 6 or 7 years without harvesting a buck, just so the buck he does havest is one year older. Then there are those hunters like those in my group who have basically given up buck hunting and have now become just deer hunters . There is no real incentive for us to protect BB since we will just be saving them for someone else to harvest. We'll take a buck if one happens to walk by, but we aren't going to be on stand an hour before shooting time with the hopes of getting a buck. Bucks simply aren't as important when you are 60 compared to when you are 20+.