Norinco doesn't build junk. They are a chinese state owned arsenal, and although I cannot stand those communist punks, I have to say that they build rugged, solid weapons. Example: Wilson Combat will only customize a few models of 1911 pistols. Guess which one they WILL customize? You guessed it, Norinco. Norinco's AK's are some of the best in the world. Their SKS's are well made, and very reliable. Their Hawk model 870 clones are very robust, and problem free shotguns. I will say that it's doubtful that Norinco ever made a cosmetically appealing weapon, but that's not what they specialize in. Norinco's claim to fame is down and dirty reliability, and value for the dollar. Nothing more, and nothing less.