Todd 1700
I shoot them or let me rephrase, i shot them out of a 700 270 sendero and my wife shot them out of a 243, Sierra Gameking BTSP and if you dont hit bone they will walkright threw a deer and will not expand a bit, you could clog up the entrance and exit wound by sticking your finger in the hole, my opinion they are crap, but hey thank the good LORD we all dont like the same thing