I'm with silent, if I can get there and get in my tree before shooting light, I am good. I used to get out there 1hr before daybreak,but that got old, and after I stopped I haven't noticed any difference in success. I kill most of my deer about 1hr after day break.


Another thing, when you guys say sunrise do you mean the first shooting light, or do you mean when you actuall see the sun breaking the horizon, there is a difference. I'm sure we mean the same thing, just different terms.