i hunt public land here in maryland and there is usally around 30 trucks parked in the area i hunt , 2 years ago i did a naughty thing i went into the woods about 3 hours before daylight and set up some dollar flashlights to give the impression that there were 4 hunters in stands in that area then i kept going to my area about 400 yards past, i got in stand 2 hours before daylight and slept until 20 min before light, that was the earliest i ever been on stand ,,,,, and yes it paid off 145# 8 POINT WITH 21 INCH INSID SPREAD