BT. Im serious, i have never seen 30 deer in a day while hunting, about 8 years ago I seen 13 deer on the second day of bow season, thats the most i have ever seen in one day. I dont doubt one bit that you see that many deer but believe it or not, I see more deer in a couple hour drive on the turnpike & RT. 70, between Bedford co. and the PA./WV. state line than I have here from the end of last deer season until now. If I lived and hunted in your area I would be screaming for herd reduction as much as you. Im not asking DR. Alt for a deer behind every tree, like NJ, Bowman pointed out there is no need for it, But I would like to see a Target goal of way more than 5 deer per square mile. I think if we traded places, I would be making your post's and you would be making mine. Pike