that's it bobco, right on the head. but i ain't got the $ to get a new one right at this time. i feel a bit like i'm stuck, like my attitude has got to be - 'oh thank you sooooo much for fixing this $650 bow 3 times. i 'm sooooo lucky you guys fix stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!" if i had the $ right now i might fly out to oregon and smash it on their front lawn and go buy a matthews (oh no i didn't) out of spite. whoooo, that felt good. (ok, venting session over). i'll be happy as a clam with it if it doesn't happen again, really like the bow, but i think i'm inventing a new type of panic. instead of target panic, i'm getting limb crack panic, better known as bottom limb fever. i'll update as necessary.