I mentioned previously in this thread about my Leica 1200's inconsistent at ranging. My 800 was the same way. Yesterday, I took a tape measure to check its accuracy, which I knew was off, and it's the same as the 800 was, on average, out to 70 yards, 2 to 4 yards off, and a differant reading on the same object at the same distance everytime. Having known that it was off, I sight my bow acording to the Leica's readings, which means, for example, 20 yards is really 16 to 18 yards, and 50 yards on the Leica is actually about 47 yards (that is, when I use the most consistant reading). Always, I get readings that are both on the low, and on the high side. Anyway, I found that the Bushnells and the Nikons are usually %100 consistant, and accurate, depending some on the model, so since accurate ranging is what I bought it for, I'm getting rid of it, and getting one of the other mentioned brands. In the end, accurate ranging is more important then nice optics, and the other brands are more then sufficient in that regard. Nikon has a 440 yard model that is 8 power, so that might be a small improvement ther also, over my Leica, and it's about half the price!