I too like the idea of no x11, no bino's, 280fps. I do however think that at the worlds only, there should be a money payout (whether it stay the same or change) and also buckles. This will also bring and keep the scores under 400 or at it. This is the one thing that can be very intimidating to new shooters. But, do we count x rings for tie breakers? If we do keep them, guys are still going to be drilling them, because that will ultimately be what decides the winners, the winner at the worlds in 2002 had a 398 and 21x's, then as far as targets go, your back to where you started. Also, I think that this will motivate some shooters to move up. We must also think of whether a change in this fashion, or any change, will be a step back or not, will we lose shooters overall? thanks butchb