I have a dozen Gold Tip pro hunters. They shoot really great and are pretty fast. My problem is that I don't have alot of confidence in carbon arrows. I have tried just about every brand. These seem about the best as far as straightness and weight. With the other brands I've only had 1 passthrough. I know I shouldn't base it on passthroughs but when I shoot deer with aluminums they have all been passthroughs. Here's my setup: Hoyt Cybertec-29" draw 70lbs, Gold Tip pro hunters-28" I talk to other people that shoot carbons and they say they have nothing but passthroughs with carbon arrows. What do y'all think?