I use an 8in. 11oz NAP shockblocker 1000 with a knuckle that puts the stab out 12 in. I like this combo my bow hangs nice and plumb. I tried it without the knuckle and felt more vibration. And it was'nt as balanced. And it does definately help with steadying the pin for those longer shots. Alot of the new stabalizers now don'nt even stabalize the just try to harness vibration. I would like to try doinker 3-D power bar. Or the SIMS enhencer with all three of their modular stab. But that $100 right their.