Well, here in Texas we fish in the Brazos River, which is a real muddy river. There are gar in there there well over 200 pounds. The soft shell turtles get as big a round as a truck tire. When I watched a special on TV about noodling, I was wondering if they would ever try that here in Texas? After some of the monsters I have seen come out of this river, I dont think they would. If they do, they may need to see a psychiatrist because they would have to be insane. hehe