I love the arguments regarding 'how we look' if we kill an animal other than the perfect way lol. Like the anti's have a clue what is ethical or not and i can assure anyone that they still hate us, and everyone else, and life in general whether we shoot a deer in the shoulder or just behind the shoulder. They'll hate your guts for alot less than that, they'll hate your guts for wearing leather shoes, having a different opinion about anything, buying a steak or a cheeseburger...the list goes on. The argument about 'how we look' to the anti's is totally moot...they will hate us as long as they remain the stupid, ignorant, uneducated, bleeding heart, hypocritical, liberal morons that they are.(see peta, the love comes right back at ya)

If the thread was deleted to protect the newbies i think that was a move in the wrong direction. I'm sorry, if the newbies are here then they can read and there was plenty of information there for the newbies to learn and know what they should or should not be doing out there. There was alot of experience chiming in to educate the realities of the situation...and most were in agreement of the right thing to do...which a newbie should have easily been able to learn from!

Hey, maybe the broadhead could have been tested on an already dead deer(one shot perfectly behind the shoulder), either way we test ourselves and our equipment everytime we draw on a live animal. Everytime. I wanna try new broadheads this year to see how they do, prolly won't go for the shoulder shot but i hammered a yearling last year with pretty much the same shot at 25 yrds and went clean thru the heart, shattered the bone, 25ish yrds with a 68lb legacy(go mathews). I hit a little further ahead than i expected on a very slight quartering to. It happened, i didn't do it on purpose but for those argueing that Len did it on purpose...bloomin ell. Over 74 ft/lbs ke at 8 yrds with a bambi? I think you'd prolly be fine if you shot it square in the middle of the chest you'd still prolly come out the back end. I can see and understand the justifications for that and also the realities that these things we build can only be tested on inanimate objects for so long. Eventually they are going to make it into the field for testing anyhow so when its about as controlled as that was...i have no issue with that. I found the information gathered very valuable and so should everyone...our nearest obstacle to the kill zone is the shoulder so this is something we should be able to talk about without fear of the pc police getting carried away. It will educate far more newbies discussing these things thru than just deleting the thread. Thats my opinion anyhow. If there are some who have issues with Len testing...like i said...about as controlled as you could get, say your bit and get over the reality that its going to happen, more might as well learn from it. It happens everytime we drop the string on an animal...a test so to speak, we only have so much control over the variables of life.

B