very true i belive in there own right they are great guns, uf i belive will be changing there info soon about the max charge, ralph lamayar (sp.) just completed a review of the gun for an up comming outdoor life article as well as a few other magazines have contacted uf for guns, i will try and get them guys to get toby a gun! i understand abouyt the gun being built from ground up as a smokless gun. and the vent liners now, as for the breech plug the design allows it to be removed but it need not be, the design of the breech plug allows no powder back into around the threads of the plug, dont ask me how but it good enough that 5 patches and iam done after a day of shooting. i will do some shooting against my buddies savage and see since we still cant use smokless here in mi i guess ill keep it until we change the law to shoot smokeless