I think that turkeyhunter_15 just shot the magic bullet of an answer.

I did'nt think about it untill just a little bit ago...Sure enough, this guy just had his dog put down a few months ago. It was a big 'ol golden retriever looking thing and it had gotten to old to do much of anything.

In hind sight, I guess that it was 'doing' something after all.

It's amazing that I did'nt put it together untill just now.

coyote caller I know what you mean about the garden fences...Some of the gardens around here are more secure then a state penitentary.

On a side note, I guess it's hard to appreciate how much a pain in the butt deer and turkeys can be untill it's your own yard thats being decimated.

I think turkeyhunter_15 had it right on...A new dog might just be the answer.