This Buck (which is the first deer mentioned in my last post) was harvested last year and scored in the mid 140's (Gross). He is also not WIDE - only 14 1/2" outside, but his left side is awesome. His right side is weak, but full of character, which is why I shot him. If his right side would have matched his right left side, he would have scored much much higher! He has great mass, which carries all the way thru the main beams. His eye guards are on the weak side. Give this guy 6-8" eye guards and a better right side and I would have had 160" deer.