Hey tanz, i tired to call you the other day, did not get an answer,i will try again this weekend, been on vacation, and back to work during the holiday,Hey huntnmaster, what part of WV is that you are in, do you run them with hounds, if you guys get to NC let me know I know where some big bears are but needs some help on hunting them,i mean big bear up to 6-700 pounds, and its not hills ,just swamps,If you guys need a hunting partner let me know, always looking to meet new friends. here is my email address [email protected]. talk to you later