pdq 5oh Absolutely! I agree with you! Sorry I didn't make myself clear in the original post! I think it is really hard for those of us in the senior class to compete with the young agile eyes and nerves of the younger hunter class fellas. I love shooting pins,always have. I have to shoot msr now and I really don't like using a scope but must since it is the only way I can hope to stay up with the upper half. I know I would do much better with a pin class. I see your a life member and perhaps we can contact our IBO reps and get some more feedback from those of us that really want to see a senior HC which by the way could be "mshc" designated. Bow Pro if your monitoring what are your thoughts? And how can we get the ball rolling on this idea? I think the IBO is a great organization and should really do more to promote the hunting classes as it does already in the pro, semi-pro and nonhunting classes. Thanks for your consideration in advance and lets hear some feedback! Thanks, rcher.